It does come close to TR pricing though :P. Intel has the galls to proclaim that the 9900K is the world's first mainstream 8c/16c processor - as if the 1800X doesn't exist and a near $500 price point is "mainstream" (and this price will only go up due to their shortage issues).
I also found it interesting how they're maintaining the Xeon branding for their 28-core chip (which isn't 5 GHz like Intel promised back at CES). I run computing apps on my system around the clock and I can't see the value in this new Xeon chip versus a 2990WX (64 tasks at once or 56 tasks at once, 64 CPU lanes or 44 CPU lanes... tough choice :P). Pricing will also be nowhere near competitive (there's a reason they didn't say). At least they're going back to solder and not locking away lanes.
Arrrw, look who's forced to make an effort, now that AMD is pulling their nose hair all over the place. How many times do they have to be caught complacently robbing their customers before they learn?
"Please AMD make a good CPU that will be close enough, but still slower, to Intel's Core, so that Intel drop prices. That way I will be able to buy a cheaper Intel Core CPU and still laugh at AMD's fanboys for buying cheap AMD CPUs for poor peasants"
As you understand, every time Intel and Nvidia are milking their fanboys, I AM ENJOYING IT BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT.
Gotta love AMD fanboys..like with every new platform release...they always ask for patience to deal with all the usual AMD issues and to wait for mature drivers...yet for Intel releases, even before release they are already talking BS about it. Grow up people. I have intel and amd systems depending on my specific needs. Couldnt care less who makes them since I still have to pay with my own money.
Sorry, but I have to say this.. The best game I have ever played.. was The Legend of Zelda - Breath of the Wild on a Nintendo Switch. Serious gaming requires great games... PERIOD!
So the new Xeon W-3175X has 28 cores, that Turbo @ 4.3GHz, vs Threadripper 2990WX with 32 cores Turbo @ 4.2GHz. It doesn't seem, on paper, to be "that" revolutionary. True that mem access is better on the i9, but will it cost around 1799usd?
When will they finally replace DMI 3.0? 24 chipset PCIe lanes that are connected to the CPU with a max bandwidth of 4GB/s. With single NVME drives pushing higher than 3 GB/s it is not hard to spot the bottleneck.
If I'm reading that right, only the core processors, not the core-x have any actual hardware mitigations for all the recent spectre and meltdown related attacks???
So wait, the 9900K and 9700K will have some hardware fixes in place for side channel attacks, as in, additional mitigations versus 8700K? So, for those, less performance impact?
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patel21 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Doesn't even come close to TR Box.TEAMSWITCHER - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Highly Doubtful .. A 28 core XEON processor will have no problems beating a 32-core TR. It's single die vs. versus multi-die with glue.shaolin95 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
good..enjoy your TR Box while I enjoy the 9900k performanceDemigod79 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
It does come close to TR pricing though :P. Intel has the galls to proclaim that the 9900K is the world's first mainstream 8c/16c processor - as if the 1800X doesn't exist and a near $500 price point is "mainstream" (and this price will only go up due to their shortage issues).I also found it interesting how they're maintaining the Xeon branding for their 28-core chip (which isn't 5 GHz like Intel promised back at CES). I run computing apps on my system around the clock and I can't see the value in this new Xeon chip versus a 2990WX (64 tasks at once or 56 tasks at once, 64 CPU lanes or 44 CPU lanes... tough choice :P). Pricing will also be nowhere near competitive (there's a reason they didn't say). At least they're going back to solder and not locking away lanes.
bubblyboo - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Price already confirmed at $530 for the 9900K and release date 10/19. Other than 14nm+++++++++ and 8 core, anything else new?Machinus - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
https://vimeo.com/1730410brunis.dk - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Arrrw, look who's forced to make an effort, now that AMD is pulling their nose hair all over the place. How many times do they have to be caught complacently robbing their customers before they learn?yannigr2 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Their customers think like this"Please AMD make a good CPU that will be close enough, but still slower, to Intel's Core, so that Intel drop prices. That way I will be able to buy a cheaper Intel Core CPU and still laugh at AMD's fanboys for buying cheap AMD CPUs for poor peasants"
As you understand, every time Intel and Nvidia are milking their fanboys, I AM ENJOYING IT BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT.
TEAMSWITCHER - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Not everyone is as impressed with AMD as you are...shaolin95 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Gotta love AMD fanboys..like with every new platform release...they always ask for patience to deal with all the usual AMD issues and to wait for mature drivers...yet for Intel releases, even before release they are already talking BS about it.Grow up people. I have intel and amd systems depending on my specific needs. Couldnt care less who makes them since I still have to pay with my own money.
TEAMSWITCHER - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
"Serious gaming requires serious performance.."Sorry, but I have to say this.. The best game I have ever played.. was The Legend of Zelda - Breath of the Wild on a Nintendo Switch. Serious gaming requires great games... PERIOD!
shaolin95 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
blah blah blah.. arent you tired of this old boring comment?Afroman94 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Again. Anand Says: 28 Cores, 4.3 Ghz out of the box.Slides say : "Up to 4.3 Ghz "
Ian Cutress - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Those are not mutually exclusive. I'm literally typing what they are saying as they are saying ityankeeDDL - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
So the new Xeon W-3175X has 28 cores, that Turbo @ 4.3GHz, vs Threadripper 2990WX with 32 cores Turbo @ 4.2GHz. It doesn't seem, on paper, to be "that" revolutionary. True that mem access is better on the i9, but will it cost around 1799usd?shaolin95 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Wait for the performance comparisons cause so far 2990x is disappointing and I was drooling for it when it was announced.yannigr2 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
On Linux, Threadripper is doing much better that on Windows. Maybe AMD's new "Dynamic Local Mode" fixes this.yannigr2 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
I liked how they where rushing to stop the multithreading demonstrations so that no one can compare easily with a 32 Threadripper.denwy - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
When will they finally replace DMI 3.0? 24 chipset PCIe lanes that are connected to the CPU with a max bandwidth of 4GB/s. With single NVME drives pushing higher than 3 GB/s it is not hard to spot the bottleneck.daviderickson - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
If I'm reading that right, only the core processors, not the core-x have any actual hardware mitigations for all the recent spectre and meltdown related attacks???hansmuff - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
So wait, the 9900K and 9700K will have some hardware fixes in place for side channel attacks, as in, additional mitigations versus 8700K? So, for those, less performance impact?imaheadcase - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
10:23AM EDT - Last year was the 8700K which reset the benchmark in gaming performanceYah because the Esports scene makes use of high end hardware with games played in it. /rolls eyes.
imaheadcase - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Woops wrong quote10:22AM EDT - Serious gaming requires serious performance
dustwalker13 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
"worlds first mainstream 8core, 16thread processor" … yes, in intel land … meanwhile in early 2017 in reality ryzen happened.WatcherCK - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Gaming is now cool, wait what? Guess Im cool now too 🙄Soldered TIM back in the package, better than using chewing gum eh Intel...