Intel Adds New Coffee Lake CPUs to Online Database

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• kgardas - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link

  Still no xeons?

• Dragonstongue - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link

  I would really like if cpu/gpu makers would use a better designation of TDP...such as TPL (True Power Limit) so if something said 95w TPL that means it was designed to NOT exceed this number and has been tested as such, TDP more oft than not is a very loose designation, sometimes it means with a light load, sometimes it means only 1 out of 4 cores loaded to maximum frequency etc, in other words, is a stupid number to be using these days, too many review sites are using this to compare competing products and saying well product A TDP is X whereas product B TDP is Y so therefore product A always wins....
  
  TPL (at least in theory) would better put all the varying figures under one hood (not counting overvolt or overclock) TDP can sometimes measure power with the overclock (such as turbo core) or in the case of some graphics cards WITH an overlock, but sometimes the rated TDP is not even taking into account default clocks such as many many graphics cards/cpu using above to well above those numbers in normal operation, in a perfect world the maker be it Intel, Nvidia, AMD or whatever would ensure that ALL products out of a given line would not use above TDP, but it is not a perfect world, and such more often than not simply becomes a "in best circumstances"
  
  Glad to see Intel releasing a whole slew of decent priced high core count models, but, likely one still suffers detriment on what the motherboard will give you based on the price of the cpu being used (the higher priced ones generally allow more pci-e lanes, more sata etc) Shows AMD really gave them a kick in the butt to push comparable stuff out really quickly, shame they could not settle on just a few awesome models and do a normal "intel way" of having 1 bajillion models out that some have this feature or that feature instead of fewer having all the same base line features (at least AMD did this properly Intel still has not learned).
  
  the 8700 is interesting, but they really should have bumped its base clock up by 100-200Mz IMO.

• edzieba - Thursday, February 8, 2018 - link

  A peak power draw rating is not very useful to anyone except the engineers speccing capacitors on the output stages of power supply circuitry. CPUs and GPUs draw dramatically carrying amounts of power on the microsecond-to-microsecond level, just looking at the peaks tells you very little about actual power usage.

• Wolfclaw - Thursday, February 8, 2018 - link

  Agree on a lot of what you said, even more on the fact that Intel had to get its teeth kicked in by AMD to offer more cores, obvious they had the capabilities to do this years back, but preferred to milk their market dominance, rather than innovate.

• Qwertilot - Thursday, February 8, 2018 - link

  Not so many years ago if you assume they were planning to keep the TDP under reasonable control - the one thing they have been really improving recently is the power draw of their big cores when clocked a bit lower.

• Samus - Thursday, February 8, 2018 - link

  Don't be naive to think Intel didn't plan this years ago. They didn't just engineer new CPU's with more cores out of the blue when AMD announced Ryzen earlier last year. It takes years to see through production of chips like these. Basically...this was going to happen anyway.
  
  However, perhaps AMD played a roll in making sure the prices didn't spike as much as we've been used too from Intel. i5/i7's have been creeping up in price generation over generation...

• prisonerX - Sunday, February 11, 2018 - link

  Thanks for being our friendly neighbourhood Intel apologist, Samus.
  
  But you are right. Intel's been working on these for years, and has been sitting on them for years. That's how they do the magic trick.

• Samus - Thursday, February 8, 2018 - link

  If that i7-8700T boosts above 4GHz and clocks above 3GHz, it will be a 35w monster. That's just insane for something that could potentially be passively cooled.

• peevee - Thursday, February 8, 2018 - link

  What a mess.

• TheJian - Sunday, February 11, 2018 - link

  Figure a fan in the cost of many of those Intel chips. So another $20-45 for my usual suspects.